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This information was never revealed to Rorrers defence. At one point, Owens looked directly at Said and reminded him of all of the abuse they endured, allegedly having a knife pulled on her. In one entry, she writes that she has plans for people who have messed with her, and that "people will be surprised of what she is capable of," Caledonia County State's Attorney Lisa Warren said. Stop defending her when she is guilty!!!!! It was total shock. Catherine Im in complete agreement with you! You say by definition! "Yaser Said, you're a devil. Jury convicts man who harbored fugitive brother accused of killing There was a blood-stained fingernail and hair found on the victims body, and even though (in Keith Morrisons Dateline documentary) the Asst. Yaser Abdel Said, 65, was found guilty of the 2008 capital murders of his daughters, Sarah Said, 17, and Amina Said, 18, according to the Dallas Morning News. The District Attorney got this one right. They claim in a 911 call from the night of the murders, Sarah said her father was attacking her. In 1981, Patricia Wrights second husband, Willie Jerome Scott, was found stabbed to death in his mobile home park in Los Angeles. I think shes guilty for sure. They had a son, Alex Martin, in August of 1994. !) and detractors (This is another bs attempt to free a psycho). As for Joanns parents, her father died a year after the murder. Ten months after Joann died he murdered another woman (who looks just like her) and her baby, as well. Oh, and she was so obsessed with him that she started dating and found herself a boyfriend that was not only younger, but much more attractive than Andy? A correction to the comment above. I expect she will admit it one day. She didnt kill those two boys and TX knows, but they made too much noise about it, hence this is probably the real reason that Darlie hasnt been put to death 24-25 yrs later. And dance instructor William Jarrett couldnt remember whether she attended his dance class at the club the night of Joanns disappearance. Ironically its you who is basing your view on second-hand information, as you were not in court. I noticed that her defense lawyer and others advocating for her is not mentioning more about the gun. WATCH LIVE: Ex-boyfriend on trial for allegedly killing womans new beau, WATCH LIVE: Psychic on Trial in Spousal Swindling Case, WATCH LIVE: XXXTentacion murder trial 3 men charged in 2018 shooting death of rapper, Law&Crime Looks Ahead to 10 Remarkable Criminal Trials Scheduled for the First Half of 2023, 9 Shocking Times Defendants Testified at Trial, A bald Alex Murdaugh appears in booking mugshot after hes sentenced to two life terms for killing wife and son, Im a father and I couldnt do this: Florida man convicted of murdering almost 3-month-old baby boy, Jan. 6th rioter who stole Officer Michael Fanones badge following Capitol assault pleads guilty, Former reality TV star gets life sentence for murder-for-hire plot targeting nephew, O.J. She was so obsessed with Andy that she called him non-stop, multiple times a day, right? Marsicovetere cited studies done by several doctors during pretrial proceedings, saying that they determined Patricia Prue suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder and might suffer from dissociative identity disorder as well. Plus, he had only a minimal life insurance policy on Joann and he passed polygraphs, according to The FBI Files: Family Secrets. Why would it be an irony for a person to express his opinion? A Pittsburgh-area woman missing for over 30 years and declared legally dead several years ago has been found alive in Puerto Rico, authorities in Pennsylvania said on Thursday. Andy did end up moving to Colorado with her and the last time I checked, they were still together. After Joann Katrinak, the wife of Patricias former flame, turned up dead along with her infant son, prosecutors suspected Patricia. Ive scanned through of all my remarks on this site and nowhere have a seen a single remark that confirms your assertion that Ive been insulting. There is no justice for your loved ones when the wrong person is paying for the crime. Unless theres a complicity between him and her, and the reason she didnt divulge it is because she hopes to put all the blame on him, when she was the one to murder and he was a planner. ALL IT THEN BECOMES IS A SOURCE OF INACCURACIES AND SPECULATION, WHICH ONLY SERVES TO BOLSTER THOSE WITH THAT MENTALITY AND PERPETUATE THE LACK OF TRUTH. "You knew how the abduction would end," Bent said. Hoist by my own petard! A newspaper account described Patricia as a soft-spoken, demure woman who had a sweet Southern accent and wore feminine clothes in court. Early in the investigation, the hairs found in the car were sent (in glass slides) to several laboratories including the FBIs. And then in their zealous efforts to show their ire, feel the need to suggest anyone who supports her is deluded. Allen Prue told police he and his wife "wanted somebody they could play with," Caledonia County State's Attorney Lisa Warren has said. Ls HUe7C22R>_%m~e5?h Patricias accusers theorized that she resented Joanns domestic bliss with the tall, athletic Andrew Katrinak. Shes where she belongs in prison for the rest of her life. She is 100% guilty seen 2 programs on this awful murder and read about it as well. That did amuse me I have to say, but youre way off target there Im more than happy with my state of mind before and after reading any of these comments. Jenkins was a teacher at St. Johnsbury Academy. After reading this forum and hearing the details of this case, Iowa sure seems a lot fairer in my eyes. Patricia Rorrer Forensic Files Now The 5-foot-9-inch-tall Patricia was physically strong, no match for 5-foot-4-inch Joann. An infant was lying face down on her stomach. And the obvious answer is that the makers too think the evidence is against her. Later, they both worked 12-hour graveyard shifts at a textile factory. More than 20 years after her conviction, Patricia Rorrer still has advocates working to exonerate her. Required fields are marked *. Entries in Patricia Prue's journal included vague descriptions of a joint fantasy that she and Allen Prue shared and were looking to fulfill. You ought to acquaint yourself thoroughly with the case and not allow yourself to get any further elevated on your high horse. If you want to help her tell her to ask God for forgiveness. After all, justice has been served in the eyes of the law, so why go on demonising her? WebIn burst a group of men and women with their guns drawn. This response of yours neatly sums up your dogmatic view of her guilt despite so much evidence to the contrary. Cold case: Rape kits from two women lead to arrest in 1979 South Owens and her sister, Connie Moggio, entered the courtroom together. Said Disagree with They were people that knew her, not Andrew. Islam Said, Yasseins 32-year-old nephew, pleaded guilty to the same charges last month in connection with the effort to protect Yaser Said, 63, who had been a fugitive since 2008. This article can also be seen at crimereport.com. Well, at least you managed some sense there when you say that, especially when you take into account the amount of evidence and witnesses which were withheld from the Defence and what appears to be a clear case of evidence-tampering. Blasczyk said she escaped from East Germany as a teenager when the country was under Communist leadership. According to William G. Kelley, director of the Law Offices of the Orange County Associate Defender, Patricia did not receive a fair trial. One of the hairs had magically developed root material to enable that. neither her nor there couldnt be linked to her. For goodness sake, it was never proved at her trial she used the gun the police so steadfastly offered as evidence or for that matter, ANY OTHER GUN. Patricia and her husband broke up after the babys death. In another peculiar turn of events, LAPD had failed to preserve the evidence when Jerome Scotts body was found two days after his murder. After one bullet didnt kill Joann, the gun locked up, so Patricia had to beat her to death, according to the prosecution. Alfey went on to say that he noticed that the woman hosting the model home was following them very closely the whole time that they were there. Or did they? Authorities said they have no evidence that Jerome had cancer or was dying. And I hope I can get down to see her., Were very thankful to know that Patty is alive and well, Smith added. Joann Katrinaks Killer Still Has Innocence Advocates(A Woman Scorned, Forensic Files). Why would she say that maybe she wasnt really a good friend, just someone trying to inject herself into a super sensational case. Theyre more than happy to exaggerate and speculate the details of the crime, which serves to attract more viewers who (like you) seem to be happy to believe it all. I am outraged at the rush to judgment displayed by the LAPD, wrote Michelle Alexander, civil rights attorney and author of the influential book, The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness, in a letter to Patricia. After relocating to Pennsylvania, Patricia met the 6-foot-2-inch Andrew in a restaurant. They found several specimens but not a single one was a match. But her reputation wasnt exactly sleek and shiny. Theres something very important to this case that needs to be mentioned more than anything else THE GUN. But it doesnt make a nonsense of her being the shooter, regardless of their speculation. simply to create an atmosphere of hatred towards a person who, in all probability, has been wrongfully imprisoned. A person tried in a court of law and then found guilty is not the be-all and end-all to the case. Rorrer is as guilty as OJ Simpson. ST. JOHNSBURY A three-year nightmare for the loved ones of Melissa Jenkins is one step closer to ending. and there are probably many people who still think he is innocent too. Instead of presenting hard facts, all I see are words and phrases that are purely speculative.. such as perhaps. Pat will spend the rest of her natural life in prison where people like her belong. Her diary certainly indicates some disturbed thinking. The Riverside County public defender stated that the court may reduce her first two offences to misdemeanors because they are classified as wobblers. Wobbler refers to a criminal offense that can be classified as either a misdemeanor or a felony. If that really is the case, the husbands alibi for a date months before becomes irrelevant. All 3 of her alibis were lies, DNA tied her to the murder, there was no sexual assault, she had a violent past, was obsessed with Andy, and was caught lying about owning a gun, which coincidentally jammed after firing once and shell cases were found on her property. And I have absolutely no sympathy. Women murder for all kinds of reasons, but the simple facts come down to this.there was physical evidence, the bullet wound matched that of the gun Pat owned, the hairs were Pats and at both scenes, and she had no alibi and she had lied to try and come up with one.and lets not forget the damning words she spoke to her 18 month old daughter that the officer had the common sense to document. Perhaps youre not aware, there was a great deal of evidence of which these documentaries made no mention, as well as misdeeds and incidents of corruption perpetrated by the cops. They allege that the North Carolina resident stealthily drove 500 miles to Pennsylvania and killed out of a sense of deadly indignation. In April 2019, 69-year-old Patricia was found guilty of second-degree murder and the use of a firearm in the commission of a felony. Yet they insisted in the trial that the call came in on the 13th. Then international law enforcement was contacted. Its nothing short of a feeble stab hoping to impress but really amounts to splitting hairs, or to put it another way, hot air with no substance. And your contention that you (me) as ONE person are wrong, let me say that while you seem to be determined in singling me out as someone whos opinion is one against the rest, is hopelessly exaggerated. The police report misspells his name (Troutman) and doesnt include his address, suggesting authorities didnt want anyone to track him down, according to Patricias side. Alex Murdaugh found guilty of killing wife, son Go watch the Reasonable Doubt episode from last night Patricia did it. Two problems, then: a failure to see your own position as you see others (failure to comprehend irony), and failure to understand the difference between fact and opinion. Although I would have liked it to be death! Most of your comment absolutely astonishes me. Susan Wright is out of prison after killing her husband in TX. A Texas man who carried out the mass shooting at the Cielo Vista Walmart in El Paso, Texas, on Aug. 3, 2019, killing 23 people and injuring 22 more, pleaded guilty today in U.S. District Court to a 90-count indictment, including 45 counts of violating the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr. Nine. So, if you feel you have to be critical of me, you should also bear in mind those hate-mongers and perhaps have a word with them too. Look into it. Both were deceased. Did Patricia have the dyed blond hair when they broke up in 1993? They were not reported until 5:30 the next morning and he had already spliced the phone lines together. Patricia McCloskey pleaded guilty to misdemeanor harassment and was fined $2,000, while Mark admitted to misdemeanor fourth-degree During the trial, the prosecutor said that the insurance reward would have been $180,000, which was totally exaggerated, said Arletta Wright, Patricias sister, who has been championing Patricias innocence from the beginning of Patricias time in prison. Just one example. Although the prosecution used it as evidence that she was trying to create a false alibi, it actually sounded more like Patricia was simply trying to nail down the facts he had already asserted to her. From my point of view this is an extremely similar case, with less class and style, and without the luxurious details that Interpols case had, such as the involvement of an extremely expensive Alfa Romeo car, and a revolver bought at a lush auction in Paris, which had belonged to a duke before the incident. Shes still guilty, with her hands did it or not, in regard to baby Alex. Relatives at the time told cops that Yaser threatened bodily harm against Sarah for going on a date with a non-Muslim. Sorry, I must have missed your name on the witness list. Patricia McCloskey pleaded guilty Thursday to misdemeanor harassment and was fined $2,000. It was a very big shock to see to know that she was still alive. They also raised concerns about what they considered a lack of evidence, including the lack of fingerprints and eyewitness reports the place Said at the crime scene. I didnt believe it. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Lawrence Slaughter is currently serving a life sentence in Calipatria State Prison for the murder of Jerome Scott as well. It was Patricias hair no question. Warren, who was tearful at the end of the hearing, said she is pleased with the outcome of the case, and that her office was only waiting on the outcome of Allen Prue's appeal. How do you explain her not telling the truth to the authorities about the gun and its flaw of only able to shoot once and then jamming up. And the obvious answer is not as you claim. "You can keep those evil eyes glaring just glare away because this is going to be the last time that you see me.". Amina Said's mother Patricia Owens Said was not charged with murder. There was a push for a mistrial, but a 16-year prison sentence was negotiated instead. Strands of the accuseds dyed-blond hair at two crime scenes proved it. And yikes, he discovered someone had cut one of the houses phone lines and pried the hinge on the basement door. Its an opinion learnt from a well-researched book, from documentaries which show and mention a great deal of facts and evidence which was never brought up at her trial. The hearing of the motion for reduction of felony to misdemeanor will be held Tuesday, Oct. 11, at 1:30 p.m. in the Riverside Courthouse at 4050 Main St. in Department 42. As to her duration on death row, no: inference cannot be made as to her guilt as theres a woman with about the same time (Holberg) and another with almost as much. Mother of Sarah and Amina Said calls Yaser Said 'the devil' after a Dallas jury found him guilty. This article is little more than fiction. Immediately after getting out of prison in the year 2000, Larry wrote a detailed letter stating that he lied about his sisters involvement in the death of her husband. I have not SEEN this report that says no root found is there a picture of it online somewhere? In a million years, she wouldnt do anything to harm that.. She said that shes no fan of Forensic Files and that the show had many misrepresentations about her case and that shed heard ForensicFilesNow.com mixed up some facts as well. John If you feel it so necessary to post a comment, please at least try to keep it original, because theres nothing sensible with your juvenile attempt using my words. His favorite rattle, shaped like a phone, lay near the crime scene. Even if there were some minor flaws or discrepancies in the investigation, thats normal. OK my GUESS is Patricia did do it!