Perhaps it was created by locals in the region. Bright sunlight is coming in from the left side of the photo, so Kris holds her flattened right hand up to her face to shield her eyes, similar to a salute. Before that, in image 507 & 508, you can see Kris in a stiff, nervous posture, because the girls saw someone they were afraid of closing in. Was the reception that bad in those locations? Given thetimeline, authorities assumedat least one of the womenwas alive at thetime, five days into the search. The girls took photos of so many things, even many mundane thingsbut for some reason the dog wasnt present in any of the photos. Their families believed the women were still in the unrecovered plane wreckage, and as the search stretched on for days and then weeks, they pleaded with the U.S. government for help they said never came. The overriding input is human. They didnt take anything with them for more than 1 or 2 hours max journey. Constance Marten seen leaving court after appearing before magistrates charged with manslaughter of baby, Constance Marten and Mark Gordon blow each other a kiss in dock before court hears dead baby was found in bag in shed, Mum identified after dead baby is found on Canford Heath, Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO). The government intentionally did not investigate key pieces of information: fingerprints, phone records, locals in the area, other forms of DNA. Hi Chris, Very interested in your website! Perhaps the killer of Catherine Johanet knows more, Hi, u might want to watch this vid it has theories dat i think might giv more insights to this case, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pCaD8kRTwsI. Also, aserial killer might have stalkedtheir area at the time. Does anyone see what I see? The ground is littered with leaves, twigs, and stones. It would be interesting to know exactly where this photo was taken Is it along the main trail north of the Mirador en route to the stream crossing? This case really creeps me out, specially the findings and the pictures. Is this in dispute? Why IMG_0509 is missing, which could be a crucial piece of evidence, is an enigma. The case needs solid evidence and/or solid witnesses coming forward.
Impact of the Pandemic on Tourism - IMF F&D This case is certainly not finished. They earn money through drug trafficking, often theft and sometimes by extorting businesses. I do not think this case fits the criteria of missing 411. Is it possible that Kris and Lisanne reached this field with fencing (past the second stream crossing) and mistook this place to be a different entry to the farm areas which are closer to the trail head ? The following insight will make not make much sense to you if you dont know their story. If the dog was with them, we cannot know for how long, nor why the dog left the girls. This is speculation. Their causes of death have never been determined. Even the bones, the few that remain. ), which doesnt look natural. Also mobile signals are better at night yet no calls were attempted. However, its still possible. Take care if you do go over there. After frolicking in the sun and taking photos for a while they decided it was time to return home, BUT they had no idea where they entered the jungle so they could not find the way out of the jungle back go to the trail. The people in Panama may be afraid to speak, but in Europe, the USA and other Central American countries there are pods of people still working on the case. And the black mark on her face. There are so many possibilities and we will probably never really know. Sometimes that is all that is found. i found it hard to understand and pickup any of the highlighted objects.i grew up in a tropical country and spent a lot of my childhood exploring woods and secondary jungles around my home with my friendsthe way i see it is that the girl have encountered a thick unpenetrable undergrowth at the end of some sort of a gorge.maybe in an effort to find a way through or out of it.when youre at ground level in a jungle its just a green world and colour hues jumbled up in some sort of a mess.and after a while you started noticing odds shapes n colours through the leavesoccassinally there will be thrash thrown around.just my thoughts. But, then again this whole case is pretty unbelievable whether you believe they did or didnt meet foul play. If the Calderas photo is genuine as you believe, then I sadly think the two girls were killed shortly after by the two young men (and possibly the taxi driver), and the police knew and bumped the lot off. However, visitors are still a crucial part of the local economy and the reason the. exactly, you are very right about the shape of her arms and facial expression. A desperate search for the students was launched, with rescue workers combing through the jungle and nearby villages. A lot of times countries dont want investigations to be publicized or they shut them down as best they can in order for their tourist trade to not be hurt!!!!! PANAMA CITY BEACH Local officials agree that traffic is the No. How many tourists go missing in Australia each year? & the way the local police handled it seems so botched making it stranger, & why keep some pictures hidden from the public still, especially if the case is closed now? We have 5 people ending up dead, and the skulls of the girls are never found. Dog owners here are not mindful of where their dog goes the owners are tending to their own life: working, raising children, running a business, or resting during the hot days. We would like to show you a description here but the site won't allow us. As well as lots of other things It shows her right arm more clearly and it looks as though there is something square where you would expect her right elbow to be strange. On March 14, 2014, students LisanneFroon and Kris Kremers traveled from the Netherlands to Panama, where they intended toassistlocal communities, volunteerwith children, learnSpanish, and relax a bit. Their story captivated me for some reason. The predator is methodical. I often keep reading things online hoping that they solved the case, but unfortunately it doesnt look like they really have. I believe the backpack was placed near the river in order to indicate where the remains would be found (like a flag), and perhaps the backpack was provided in hopes to receive the reward money, and the location of the backpack meant that searches would move to a different location (potentially because the police were too close to the suspects at the time). He has a whole series of You Tube videos (over 50) that were made that show that the pictures were manipulated and he names the suspect. Again, these are just observations. A tragedy and a mystery but in its core, this is only a horrible accident. Would they really have gone along a dark spooky ravine, which is obviously a dead end, if they were trying to find their way back to Boquete? You will notice another branch of dead leaf just below it. Maybe someone had her in there sitting on the rock, and she heard them coming back and got up quickly to turn around. The girls went for a swim in a rock pool. They provide a live accounting of missing-persons cases. I have seen some gruesome stuff where a captor will smash the feet of a captive to prevent escape. For what reason? They keep trying to call emergency. The camera and photos were tampered with with photos removed and other photos cropped and reduced in size. This would mean that this photo possibly shows the entrance to a cave leading inside the wall of rock behind it. To Janice To me it looks as if shes holding up one hand cupping her ear as if to hear something being shouted to her. Theres no denying that the face looks skewed and mask like. He threatened them with a machete, and led them to a sacrificial alter. For the next four days they travel. Heres what I think happened. So its kind of curious that the most critical images are either cropped or missing entirely. However, if this photo showed that someone had hit her, why would the culprit not delete it along with photo 509. It isnt a cave, somebody has shown in a youtube video that it us just a very deep path on the wrong side of the mountain with a sharp turn. Does anyone know where this photo was taken in relation to their happy photos taken at the top of the Continental divide? While some believe Kris and Lisanne died in an accident, the ex-cop slammed the police investigation in Panama as shoddy and said it should be redone. I think it would be nice for a botanist to take a look at the vegetation. Thank you for your comment. I upscaled that image with AI correction and its 100x more clear that there is obviously a trap or makeshift roofing above her. (The photos where the sky is suddenly cloudy). I am assuming that the rock painting you refer to is the round orange patch on the right. I like the wit and sarcasm.
What Really Happened To Two Dutch Hikers Who Disappeared In Panama? https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lMUOsoUME0Q/YLJzTuPRWbI/AAAAAAAAHDc/431BbuGq2PQEgxV65djGrwcBUCL5BEh8QCLcBGAsYHQ/s486/closeupkrs.jpg. The women wanted to see as much of Boquete as possible,hiring a guide to showthem around on April 2, 2014. Thanks and cheers. There IS anecdotal info that Lisannes BF made contact with her at 1400 or so on the 1st April but maybe that was Dutch time not Panama time? This tribe was not located near the area where Kris and Lisanne disappeared, and therefore, in no way can be connected to the disappearance of Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon. To the left hangs a cow skull smeared with blood, perhaps worn during the sacrifices. After the attempted calls, the phones stayedon for some time. The alarm was initially raised about the disappearance of the girls after they missed a private walking tour of Boquete on April 2. This either meant Lisanne Froon was conscious while Kris was not, and tried to call emergency services, or that a third party tried to get into her phone but didnt succeed. Of course these generalities and cultural traits do not apply to everyone here. The indigenous people know how to use phones watch the Kinga documentary. I have watched so much about this case and this is the first time I have heard that the parents withheld photos. The reason being, many people assume that shes leaning over and looking down at the rock before her. More info here. I cant say what it is, but it looks similar to an object, that can be seen in some of the nighttime photos, like in this one here. Theres so much conflicting information regardless of which theory is chosen. Most fingers seem to point to the Panama authorities, who have also been blamed for a poor initial search in the immediate days after the disappearance. Estou certa que no foi Lisanne que a tirou. Panamas government is stuck in a desperate position.
Australia has 2,000 missing persons and 500 unidentified human remains Theres no evidence that animals scavenged the Holandesas., Panamanian IMELCF Forensic Anthropologist, This is from the Daily Beast interview with Jeremy Kryt titled: The Lost Girls, the Bones, and the Man in the Panama Morgue. Indeed it does not even accidentally appear. I also see something above the brown circle, like a ring of colored balls or ???? Thanks for all you are doing Chris. Cheers. I dont think so. You can even see clear rods in the red areas towards the top going straight through. At dawn the rain stops and she sets out. No dog. But arent there the subsequent photos of Kris Kremers crossing the stream and so the developments may have occurred after this picture 505? if you break your ankle in a fall and die your foot is likely to be found IN the shoe as is what happened. Did they lose it right at the start of the hike, but didnt bother to go and look for it? Could it be the same man in both photos. It could be that the taxi driver couldve called someone and given them a heads up that two beautiful young ladies had just headed up the Pianista alone. However, if Continuous mode was in use then even if 509 was deleted, the next image will be 510. From my understanding, there was no warning signs on the trail. Who did the manipulation of course is a mystery but it points to being a corroboration of the police narrative that they got lost. Her whole body is facing towards the right in the picture, almost in profile to the camera, with even her right leg in front of her left leg (a dancer would tell you that her whole body would much more naturally turn to the left, away from the camera) and then only her face turning right, towards the camera, the upper part of her body following slightly. Caruso, 56, died on June 17 after staying at the Boca Chica Resort in Santo Domingo. The search efforts moved into the forests where the young women traversed, using on-foot search teams and dog units. Be careful. December 17, 2022. In Latin America, gangs, cartels and human traffickers work very effectively in unison to carry out organized crime. For a monster (him or them) this was enjoyment. Theres some orange with white dots. Even though both kept contact with their families daily through messaging and calls? I think the night photos were taken by individuals who found the device and were not familiar with the camera, perhaps never seeing a camera before. ABC News had previously reached out to the U.S. Embassy in Panama for comment but did not receive a response. If you think America is a safe country youre extremely ignorant or niieve. Its part of the relaxed culture. This photo has been edited. She has no idea that her parents are about to arrive in Panama. Im considering putting together a research team to visit Panama and further investigate the details of the case interviews, videos, mapping terrain, etc. The Lost Girls of Panama: The Full Story ^ From that point the trail leads over another dangerous cable bridge, and two more rickety plank swing-bridges, before reaching the Ngobe village of Alto Romero on the banks of the Culebra. Thats from her palm. Yes, the photo data was manipulated. That looks kinda like a monster, Very interesting and thorough analysis. 2. I think investigation isnt the correct word. The non-waterproof lycra backpack mysteriously shows up, with completely dry contents. Its part of life in the countryside and small towns. If so, it would indicate that she had been kept alive for a few weeks or more. Brought to trial and prosecuted successfully: highly unlikely, less than 1%. Its interesting numerous people have contacted me anonymously and informed me that there are already multiple existing research teams that are investigating this case privately. I would expect especially on the first day for total panic to occur and multiple attempts to be made until a decision was made to save battery strength. The calls bother me though. Someone was with the girls when the two photos of them were taken on the Pianista summit. I dont think there was actual foul play. Ive already researched a lot about the local conditions: https://imperfectplan.com/2020/07/02/kris-kremers-lisanne-froon-panama-bleached-bones/. That said, even if there is a structure there, it has been made clear that there are a lot of trails on the other side of the El Mirador that are used by the indigenes, so it wouldnt be surprising to see indications of these areas being used. I think that Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon underestimated their surroundings and were ill prepared for this adventure. Not getting any fingerprints looks suspect. Regardless of who created it, the fact is that the women made emergency phone calls shortly after they visited this place. Possibly ambushed and didnt have time? Photo #509 was permanently deleted which takes advanced technical knowledge, plus a computer. I hope justice is found for these girls, so very sad & just horrifying. One obvious question - has anybody ever found the place that is in this photograph.
Dyatlov Pass Tourists Go Missing While Visiting Area of - Newsweek Also, the parents did not release all the images. Who said there werent any scratches on the bones? Probably something like peanut butter, which is a typical energy-dense low cost food carried by people who are traveling light.
German Tourist Sexually Assaulted After Being Lost In Panama's Jungles Not saying that its impossible, but very VERY difficult to edit photos seamlessly. There were no signs at that time. From January to October, 86 Navajo men and women have gone missing nationwide, said Meskee Yanabah Yatsayte, a missing-persons advocate for . the only strange element in this photo is the distance. I wish we had the answers to your questions. Your email address will not be published. Because of thedark, the pairmight have usedthe camera flash as a light sourceor to scare away animals. Europe is the world . Incredible work and interest- level regarding the fate of these human spirits. Theres A red plastic bag above Kris in a tree to her left. I dont know what Chris means by this, but at first I thought it was a wooden post sticking up from the ground and painted white at the top. After this, the photos were from April 8, 2014and likely snappedbetween 1 amand 4 am. So this sparked my curiosity. Theyre also exceptionally rugged and dangerous, especially during the April-to-October wet season. The circular part looks like vines to me, but the portion in the middle has potential to be a cow skull. Its worth mentioning how the police found out that someone tried unlocking Kris Kremers phone, but failed to do so. A closer look at mysterious disappearances that continue to baffle detectives. ALSO, I really want to know where and when Kris quit wearing her backpack! She is obviously excited by the weird place they have found. People began to suspect something happened whenthe dog Blue returned from the hike unaccompanied. It would be scarey.they could got attack by animal. Throughout the years people have hiked the disappearance route, I wonder if this structure was found there and investigated.
Panama: Seven young people killed on trip to Gatn Lake This whole incident is the stuff of horror movies and very chilling, even if it was an accident. Its possible theres a painted insignia on the post to right of Kris. Again NO SIGNAL! It is clear they contributed much to this by their actions. It looks as if there is a guy standing off the edge in the tunnel. Then again, my brain may be playing tricks from staring at it too long. The blue object looks like it could be a crushed beer can. Even the cheap pair of sunglasses are in perfect condition. I dont know if this photo is before or after a photo where Kris appears to have mud on her legs and on her arm. Its up to the public now the government closed the case 6 years ago. Trials are too costly. 1. What is that clear brown glass-looking circle in the upper righthand corner? At the beginning of this video I think I see some blue dye/paint/powder on one of the mens legs and something blue on the floor. Her hands are *not* tied behind her back. Guns are mostly for use in robberies, but these gangs prefer not to leave bullet holes its too obvious. Could fishing line be being used to secure all this making it hard to see, & could that blue object on the ground be part of the roof device- step on it & it triggers it or something like that? I want to come!! 100 calls to 911, and NOT ONE attempted call to immediate family? I think it would be a mistake to assume Lisanne knew her friends password. To begin with his suggests either they walked into dense dark forest so there was no foto ops or it stopped being fun and started to become serious so somewhere not far beyond that stream did they met a fateful fork in the path which took them towards oblivion. Im curious. Maybe one girl regained consciousness at night and took the pictures. The Panamanian government had requested that the U.S. deploy assets including Navy salvage divers and sonar to aid in the search effort and locate the wreckage in the days after the crash, but the request was denied due to a lack of assets and jurisdiction, according to a statement from the Velleman and Borries families. To inquire about a licence to reproduce material, visit our Syndication site. There are some walls of rock in an area which I think is called los Naranjos, not too far from the Pianista trail (relatively speaking) and is where people go climbing. Theres not a lot of information about the gangs in the Boquete area. Sure, anyone can do these things with a computer and specialized knowledge but with this level of competence? Years later, some people still believe someone killed the pair. It was taken on the Continental Divide on April 1st, 2014 with the recorded time: 13:20:32. Out of all the photos that have been released this photo disturbs me the most. Is there a head count of how many people have perished using the hiking trail in, say the last 10 years? If they did, then Im wondering if the dog named Blue went with them or was allowed in the taxi. Also, I live in El Salvador, less than 1,000 kilometers from Panama, which has many cultural similarities. 3. I would start at both ends of the trail meaning working forward from where they started their walk and backwards from where their pathetic remains were found. Even rainwater gets heavy enough to destroy electronics inside of a backpack yet that didnt happen. These photos dont have a lot of helpful information and the camera was tampered with. The remains of two American women who went missing after their plane crashed off the coast of Panama a month ago have been recovered, officials said. Debra Ann Velleman, of Waukesha, Wis., and Sue Borries, of Teutopolis, Ill., are missing after their plane crashed off the coast of Panama on Jan. 3, 2022. If you take small part of a bigger image and blow it up to match the size/aspect ratio of other photos on the card, it will still keep the same number of pixels per square inch, but they will become much bigger.
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